Forming limited company (buy to let business)
jgreenhalgh started this topic @ 22:05 on 17/11/2003
Please can any body help - If this venture is viable I think I will need the services of a qualified accountant so initial advice is appreciated
I currently rent 1 x house privatly and am purchasing another as we speak
Q - Do I now set up a limited company?
At the moment only costs related to the specific property are allowed against tax (interest on loan, maintenance,insurance, wear & tear etc)
I then pay 40% tax on the net income
What other benefits are available in a Ltd Co?
What type of costs could I put through the business
Can I put all refurbishment costs through the business before I rent, I estimate it will cost me £6K to complete this house. If I did this private I could not claim against the rental income only agianst Capital Gains Tax for the future sale?
Are the valuation fees land searches solicitors fees all be put through the company even though I have started to pay these and not yet decided to set up a company?
Can I claim VAT back on purchases
Could I run my girlfriends car from the company? does it have to be specifically for the use of the rental property business
Could I transfer my computer into the business as an asset
Could I claim relief using the office to run the business, bills etc
I belive that.........
If i only make < £10K profit there is no tax to pay so I could leave this cash in the business? Correct ?
When taking it from the business in the form of dividends I would pay corproration tax approx 20%
Is it beneficial to put your own residential property into the business thus creating a monthy cost in the form of a mortgage but receiving no income
Do I have to pay the directors a salary ( I would rather not)
How do directors loans work?
Thats enough questions to start with Please can anyone help
James Smith looks like he has a lot of expertise?
Thanks
J Greenhalgh
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RE: Forming limited company (buy to let business)
James Smith | 18/11/2003 10:10 AM
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In general terms it is not normally advisable to put a residential let into a limited company, due to the costs of extracting monies on sale. Although there are income tax benefits that you allude to, the charge to CGT is more severe.
The main occasion when it is beneficial is when a property is owned in this manner while you are a higher rate tax payer, but you can distribute funds over time as a lower rate tax payer, ie on retirement. If you are going to go down this route it is imperative that you take good advice, as if you structure things badly it will be ineffective. As you currently state you are in the process of buying the second property, it is possibly already too late to consider this option - if sell to the company you will be hit with stamp duty again.
A limited company is useful where people are renovating properties as this is an income tax not a capital gains tax activity. IN addition if you are carry out the actions of an agent, you can set up a ltd co to carry out these service’s but hold the properties in your name. This is only suitable if you have a large letting income.
Regarding your other points, the renovation costs prior to letting are considered capital (despite what I have just written above - this is tax - don’t look for logic!) and will reduce your capital gain on sale.
VAT can’t normally be reclaimed as you wont be VAT registered.
Running your GF's car from the business will result in a large tax bill for her - and is not normally worthwhile.
You can get relief for running your business from your home office, bills PC's etc, but only that portion which relates to it. Having 2 rental properties isn’t a huge undertaking, and therefore the office expenses connected to be reasonable are not going to be significant. For example if you use your PC 10% connected to the business, only 10% of the costs can be claimed.
Putting your main residential property into the business is very unwise - you can claim a deduction on the mortgage interest for debt used to purchase the property financed on your home without throwing away your exemption from CGT and paying stamp duties again.
I would suggest you do go on to take some proper advice given the size of the investment you are undertaking. If I can be of assistance, please let me know.
Regards,
James Smith
Chartered Accountant
www.uktaxshop.co.uk
01284 764436
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RE: Forming limited company (buy to let business)
dougc99 | 27/11/2003 08:51 PM
I would think very carefully about forming a company. Currently I would expect you are running this as just property income and going through the self assessment mill.
If you set up a company you will have to consider all the administration aspects. If you are only going to make less than £10K it would hardly be worth it.
For VAT purposes you are going to have to turnover 57K that means income only per year. That equates to just under £5000 per month. The more involved you get in the business the more it will cost you to run it. Things like company cars sound nice but you need (expensive) advice to ensure that you don't get it wrong.
Good Luck
Doug
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RE: Forming limited company (buy to let business)
cyue | 27/12/2009 11:49 AM
Question:
- can I remortgage my main residential property and use the fund to purchase a buy to let residential property and net off the interest that I pay on this loan against the rental income?
- my second question is to set up a company or not based on the following factors:
. owned 2 mortgage free properties. Bought them with the intention to pass to children who are still at secondary school age.
(b). Plan to rent them out, rental income enquired c£15k p.a
(c). I am not a DIY person and am in full time job
(d). I know that I am better off getting a buy to let mortgage for these properties and release the equity to increase my portfolio if I am planning to get into buy to let business because this will reduce my taxable income.
(e) what I need to do in order to pass the ownership to my children, is there a minimum age?
(f). if I set up a company and start to expand my portfolio, will this be a more tax efficient way of passing these assets to my children by appointing them as directors of the company? What is the minimum age?
(g). Some of the articles that I googled mentioned that some buy to let deals are less favourable for company than for individual, is this correct?
Please help.