RE: Top Level Domain Names
othellotech | 06/02/2005 03:12 PM
We all know that in the past, in order to register a domain name (2nd level domain name) we had go to an ICANN accredited "Domain Registrar".
You might "know" it, but you're incorrect ...
* there is no such thing as a "2nd level domain name"
* to regsiter a .co.uk domain you deal with a Nominet Member and TAG Holder, not an ICANN Registrar
* you can register through any one of over a million resellers
This means, we are restricted to what Top Level Domain Names ICANN invents.
eg. ".com", ".net", ".org", ".uk" etc.
For *global* use without the requirement for extra "plugins" or non-standard setups, yes you are limited to the *approved* and *recognised* tld's - i's called standards.
These competitions are called "Alternate Name Spaces".
ICANN operate one of a number of "Name Spaces" - Yes there are others ... new.net being one of the most successful, but still a flop.
Now, I was really shocked to learn from them ... that any Tom, Dick and Harry can also run "Name Space" like them or ICANN and start making billions of dollars selling domain name registrations
Right, unfortunately here we go to cukoo land ...
Firstly in order to actually run a Namspace you'd need a certain level of *clue* in how it all fits together, along with root namservers etc to provide the lookup facilities for the names. Immediately this is not in the "any T D or H" territory.
Secondly as the names wouldn't necessarily even work for people how many potential clients do you think you'll get for a non-working product ?
Billions of Dollars ? Enom , one of the most successfull ICANN accredited domain registration companies, with a total of 5million domains registered, makes appx 20c on each one - total made = $1,000,000 [1 million]
That made me even more puzzled and am still wondering what's holding the big brands to get in the same boat as ICANN.
Why would they want to ? At some level there has to be a series of controls, or systems fall into total chaos. Despite their failings and some questionable ideas, ICANN / IANA provides that role for Namespaces. Imagine 184 different companies all running a tld ".mike" - you'd only be able email a.mike if you knew which of the root systems they used and you used the same ones, and there would be another 183 "a.mikes" out there...
For systems to work on a global scale - like the internet, there has to be some rules.
Feel free to setup an alternate TLD, it's a good learning exercise.
It's also a complete waste of time and money.
Even "official" tlds dont always work - there only a million .info domains, most of which are owned by cybersqatters and domain-prospectors. Affilias who run .info have been giving them away and still no-one really wants them.
Extending the "global" list of tld's with .pro, .biz, . info, .aero, .coop only means more domain extensions for legitimate business to be *forced* to buy to stop their brand dilution.
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RE: Top Level Domain Names
questioner | 18/02/2005 12:22 AM
othellotech,
I don't understand why there will be chaos if there is too many name-spaces.
First, there was BT (a monopoly) but now you have (based on government approval) lots of phone companies.
Yes, I do agree that if every phone company was duplicating numbers then there would be a chaos for collission reasons.
I mean, if BT reserved 999 for the emergency services and Cable & Wireless reserved it for the DSA then when some-one wants the emergency services they may find a Cable & Wireless phone box and dial 999 for the emergency services but be calling the dsa.
But this collission is not happening because the phone companies are co-operating with each other.
One company's customers's phone numbers are not duplicated/copied by their competitions.
The same is going for the "Alternate Name-Spaces" with the exception of ICANN bullying the ".biz" from another.
Frankly, there would be no issue of duplicate TLDs if each TLD or name-space creator created the TLDs in his/her/their brand name because no-one would dare copyright infringe a brand name and then get big brother set it's hounds on them.
Example :
BT, overnight can acquire a dedicated server.
Install BIND dns server.
Configure it to resolve/serve the ".bt" tld.
It can then drop a line to the Altername name-spaces to support it.
Microsoft can do the same for ".ms".
All Altername name-spaces's customers can now view websites under the ".bt" and ".ms" TLDs.
You can have websites like :
othellotech.bt
othellotech.ms
Would it be illegal for BT and Microsoft to do that ?
Frankly, I don't really care if my "TLD" gets popular or not. It's worth giving a shot aslong as no-one would hound me for running my own TLD. If the TLD gets popular, then great but if it does not then it's not the end of the world.
I mean, what's the legal responsibilities, liabilities, etc. to operate my own TLD and how can I protect it (if it is not in my brand name) so no-one can else can duplicate it like ICANN duplicated ".biz" ?
RE: RE: Top Level Domain Names
othellotech | 18/02/2005 03:46 AM
I mean, what's the legal responsibilities, liabilities, etc. to operate my own TLD and how can I protect it (if it is not in my brand name) so no-one can else can duplicate it like ICANN duplicated ".biz" ?
Its not as cutand-dried as your example with phones - its even more chaotic - what if you could only ring certain numbers from certain branded phones - you could only call a C&W user from a C&W phone - thats what we have with the alternate namsespaces
Responsibilities / Liabilities etc ... an old adage springs to mind - if you need to ask, you arent ready 
Protect it etc - you do it under the ICANN system - join up , pay the fees, setup the root nameservers, hire a bunch of techs and consultants [rates on application :p] and put forward the case for needing a new TLD - and sadly 'cos its cool' wont cut it ...
Its been discused to death on more ISP oriented boards.
I'm not disagreeing with the concept of removing control from IANA/iICANN
I am saying at some point someone needs to control and manage these things or the system will simply break, and teh end-users wont know why they cant see your website or send you an email.
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