misstique started this topic @ 07:07 on 07/05/2004
I initially set up my company as a limited company just before the tax rule change which I believe may have made it less advantageous to be a limited company.
Can anyone tell me (in plain English please),
i)Is there maybe a turnover threshold which would make it worthwhile remaining limited?
ii)Would you consider moving from Limited to sole trader bearing in mind that as a start up, I'm at the very early stages (only just produced my first invoice)!
Many thanks
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RE: Limited Company back to sole trader
Barr | 07/05/2004 09:10 AM
Misstique.
The legislation brought in by old gordon will affect limited companies whose profits (for tax purposes) are less than £50,000.
The change means that if you pay dividends, and your profit is <£50,000, you will have to have paid at least 19% corporation tax on the profits distributed as a dividend.
i.e you make £30,000 profit
if no dividend paid out you would pay tax of £4,750.
(effectively 15.83%).
if you paid a dividend of £10,000 you would pay as follows:
£10,000 @ 19% - £1,900
£20,000 @ 15.83% - £3,166
total £5,066 (an additional £316)
although you have paid an additional £316 in corporation tax you would have saved 12.8% Er's NI and 22% tax (assuming not 40% tax payer)
saving from Er's NI & Tax - £3,480
In simple terms if your going to make profit there is benefits to being limited rather than a sole trader.
Barr Stevenson
Chartered Accountant
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RE: Limited Company back to sole trader
James Smith | 07/05/2004 10:54 AM
In answer to:
"Is there maybe a turnover threshold which would make it worthwhile remaining limited?"
About £15k of profit produces tax savings of approx £1000 if you fully distribute for a basic rate tax payer with no other income. This is about par for most people in terms of the extra cost/hassle of running a ltd company.
However, and its a big however, disincorporating is somewhat harder than the other way around. It would appear you are already trading within the ltd co = accounts = time and money. Unless you are going to make less than £15k per annum long term I would stick with what you have got.
If you think you really do want to disincorporate have a good chat with your accountant to see if circumstances allow you to call yourself self employed for this one transaction.
For anyone else starting up there is a lot to be said for starting as a sole trade, and incorporating after 12 months or so when the business model has been proven if you don’t need Ltd company status from the outset.
Regards,
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RE: Limited Company back to sole trader
misstique | 08/05/2004 12:07 AM
Thanks very much for the advice guys.
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