graeme_audits started this topic @ 17:00 on 18/11/2004
We lauched our new website on the 1st of October and i was wondering when i should expect the search engine performance to improve. The new site www.auditsunlimited.com replaced our old .co.uk site and at the moment feeds off links from the old site.
I've looked at the web stats and it seems that despite registering with various search engines, Google is the only engine to have crawled us. Is there a reason for this?
Search engine performance was a key drive behind the new site and a great deal of work went into keywords etc. to enhance its performance.
At the moment it attracts just over half of the visits that the old site got, which i suppose isn't bad since it was only launched a month and a half ago.
Does anyone know when i'll start seeing real results as we are planning to drop the .co.uk site when the new one is strong enough.
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RE: Website performance
Aceicol | 18/11/2004 05:16 PM
Hi Mate
Don't shoot the messanger but I have seen some sites take up to 8 months to start performing.
The good news is that you have obviously had the new site developed with search egines in mind and hopfully you will see the benefit before then, but there is no real and definate answer to your question I am afraid.
Thanks
Alex
RE: RE: Website performance
WebDonkey | 19/11/2004 10:35 AM
Google and Yahoo are not in any way linked - their relationship ended quite some time ago. You can't just submit your site to a few search engines and expect them to start sending traffic your way - there's far more to it than that.
Search engines use a number of factors to decide how your site is ranked, one of the most important is the number of third party sites which link to yours - the theory being that if your site has something interesting to offer, lots of people will link to it. There are many other elements to the process of getting good results from search engines, but getting people to link to your site is the first thing you should worry about.
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RE: RE: Website performance
WebDonkey | 19/11/2004 12:12 PM
One of the best things you could do is submit some of your news and articles to related web-sites in your industry, under the agreement that they can publish the article if it includes a link to your site.
Quite a few people think that the value of reciprocal (two-way) links is declining in Google and other search engines, so finding ways to get people to link you without you having to link back to them is important. Offering them articles for publication is a good way to do this - plus it increases your stock as an 'industry expert'.
Having good, regularly updated content on your site is also very important, but you already seem to be on top of that so just keep up the good work and keep plugging away.
Also - go to dmoz.org and submit your site to the relevant category. It takes time and effort to get listed there, but since lots of people use the dmoz directory as a basis for their own directories once you do get your site listed you should start to see an increase in traffic fairly soon after.
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RE: RE: Website performance
afam | 19/11/2004 09:48 PM
It is actually useless for one to submit a website to a search engine.
Search engines go out to crawl websites. Usually starts from one website and follows links to others. It is as simple as that.
You may pay for special positions if you like.
If you have quality content and other websites link to your website, you should be just fine.
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RE: RE: Website performance
WebDonkey | 22/11/2004 12:36 PM
Search engines like google and yahoo spider the web, submitting your site won't guarantee inclusion - you're more likely to get listed when they find your site through links on other sites. Directories like dmoz.org require you to submit, some are free, others expect you to pay for a listing - but to be honest it's usually just as well to stick with the free listings. Paid for listings are a bit of a rip off imo - if your site's good quality, then it will get plenty of links and decent rankings without having to pay.
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RE: RE: Website performance
Rich Wheeler | 22/11/2004 08:58 PM
It seems a shame that 'number of links' is such an important factor in the criteria that search engines use to judge whether a website is or is not good quality. Of course it makes sense, since the process is presumably entirely automated and therefore works on a quantitative rather than qualitative basis. Seems a shame that some of the 'best' web sites are perhaps overlloked by the search engines purely because they choose not to clutter themselves up with multi-coloured flashing adverts. Thank goodness for http://botw.org/ a website which not only celebrates the best websites on the web, but also demonstrates in its own design that function over form is what discerning web-users need. (apologies - first posting on this site!).
RE: RE: Website performance
graeme_audits | 23/11/2004 11:27 AM
Yes, i agree.
Having just developed what i believe to be a good looking, professional site i don't want to have to add flashing adverts and multiple links to get a good search engine placement. I think this is where business websites are at a disadvantage. This sort of advertising is fine on retail websites, but i don't think it portrays a good image to do it on business service websites.
The only links we are creating are directory links, which means no return links and through our affiliate scheme, which i don't mind adding links to as we are targeting business related companies that would add value to our site.
We are also in the process of writing guides and stories to submit to PR websites and article submission websites to increase the number of links.
Does anyone know of any other ways to increase the number of links we can get without having to provide reciprocal links?
Thanks for the advice and discussion so far guys.
Cheers,
Graeme
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RE: RE: Website performance
WebDonkey | 23/11/2004 02:12 PM
Discussion forums are handy - find some that are related to your business and post regularly (i.e. weekly) on them, with your site link in your signature. These