repepper started this topic @ 10:30 on 05/05/2006
I am looking at office space and have decided that serviced offices are our best bet whilst we are growing (flexibility, only pay for space used, quick setup, less headaches!).
I've had some quotes from the providers in my local town (Regus, MWB, BE and Technology Business Centres) and their prices are promoted as "all inclusive" but the detail seems to be different.
One quoted about £350 per desk per month, but then added that they charge £25 per month to rent a telephone handset and £35 a month for broadband. (I asked if this was for the office, but no, per DESK!).
I am not so worried about the obvious gouging that is taking place as I'll just write the budget at £410 per desk. My concern is that there may loads of other hidden fees, charges, costs, extras, etc (don't know if anyone will remember the campsite owner from Carry On Camping, but it sprang to mind whilst talking to their sales people!!)
What I want to know if anyone has any experience of serviced offices (good or bad) and can point out what to look out for and what to ask before signing an agreement!!
Cheers,
Richard.
RE: Anyone got experience of serviced offices? (e.g. Regus)
markhutch | 05/05/2006 03:18 PM
Hi there,
Yes I have and it depends on what your expecting to use the office for. We are a virtual company (i.e. everyone works from home) but keep a small rented office for customer meetings etc as it's much more professional.
Regus are very expensive as are many of the larger organisations. Whilst there costs are expensive if your looking for quality offices they can work out cheaper (and considerably more flexible) than taking on a lease, paying business rates, insurance, utility bills, building a network/phone system etc.
There are smaller (some times privately owned business parks) offices to rent that may be cheaper, however I would also suggest that you search for enterprise zones, contact your local business link, council etc......as some of these facilities can be excellent value (albeit not quite as lush as Regus etc..).
Hope this helps.
Mark Hutch
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repepper | 05/05/2006 03:32 PM
Thanks Mark.
To be honest I am primarily looking at the major players due to their good locations locally (i.e. within 10 minutes of a Starbucks!) and the fact that I can access their network of other centres (especially in Central London for meetings, etc).
One of the key things for me at the moment is only paying rent for what I need - so whilst we grow from 1 to 5 to 15 people we keep paying per person, rather than having a half empty space. It also helps that we can change and/or walk away from the agreement relatively quickly if either the business grows at a different rate to that predicted.
Cheers,
Richard.
RE: Anyone got experience of serviced offices? (e.g. Regus)
Dewetha | 06/05/2006 10:37 AM
When i looked for a small office i had exactly the same response. Although the office space was within the budget by the time you added internet access, telephone lines etc it was getting expensive. The biggest problem i had, and you should probabally look out for is the office company wanted to charge "BT standard rates" for any outgoing calls we made. as you know noone has payed BT standard rates for many years now and they are very dear. This might not be a problem for you but for us it was as we wanted the office to operate a small call centre!
RE: Anyone got experience of serviced offices? (e.g. Regus)
Dewetha | 06/05/2006 10:39 AM
by the way, £35 for broadband?!? thats dear enough anyway, but per desk that is silly. If you do purchase office space it might be worth getting a network setup which can be done fairly cheaply so that only one of your computers is connected to the broadband but the others can access the internet through the one that is connected.
Give me a shout if you need this setting up and i can let you know what is involved.
RE: Anyone got experience of serviced offices? (e.g. Regus)
repepper | 08/05/2006 08:25 AM
Thanks Charlie - yeah, I thought £35 for the "office" was rather step, given all the deals that are now in place for broadband, but per desk just made me gasp!
I will also make sure I ask about the phone charges - I know hotels used to make a reasonable amount of money out of the phones, but hadn't considered it for this, so I'll make sure I ask each candidate centre about that.
Cheers,
Richard.
RE: Anyone got experience of serviced offices? (e.g. Regus)
SPower | 08/05/2006 01:22 PM
I used Regus for a time. I had an office with two desks, which cost me around £900 per month for the rent and £35 per desk for broadband and £25 per desk for a telephone. I then moved to a larger office with four desks, and was charged around £1,700 per month. I sety up a wireless network so only needed one broadband package (Regus don't like their clients doing this). Take care about parking, as Regus charge around £35 per month in provincial offices. Having your nameplate in their reception costs around £70.
Regus are expensive, but th elevel of service is very high, as is the flexibility gained if you wish to move to larger (or smaller) offices.
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RE: Anyone got experience of serviced offices? (e.g. Regus)
repepper | 08/05/2006 01:29 PM
Thanks Sean - very useful info.
At the moment, they seem to offer the flexibilty that I need and are within budget (but that is going only on the charges that I know of so far!!) so seem like the right choice, certainly for the first 12 to 24 months.
I guess the critical question is - "were they worth the high price and would you use them again?"
Cheers,
Richard.
RE: Anyone got experience of serviced offices? (e.g. Regus)
SPower | 09/05/2006 10:46 AM
It worked at the time for me. One thing I would say is investigate the costs for everything - they are very good at surprising you with additional charges. Adding my company's nameplate to reception was one they got me with (another £70!). The flexibility in terms of office space if great, adn the fact that they answer the phones, deal with mail, receive faxes etc. all adds to the value. Another great benefit is that you can hotdesk in any of their locations - most have a coffee area with wireless access that you can use.
Push for as much discount as you can on meeting room space if you want to use it - we were getting around 20% towards the end (although we ran training courses so did use a fair number).
Get to know the centre manager - they can help or hinder you depending upon your relationship.
In summary, it was worth the high price and I would use them again.
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Sean Power
www.quadrigamotivation.co.uk
http://startup-it-security.blogspot.com/
"What I do today is important because I am exchanging a day of my life for it."